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News · 2026-09-09

Suno retrains on licensed music as Sony and Universal keep suing

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Suno announced Suno v6 on Wednesday, a family of three music generation models the company says was built on licensed data from labels and distributors including Warner Music Group, BMG and Believe. Suno went out of its way to state that v6 was not trained on the data behind its earlier models, and that those earlier models will be retired. The announcement landed a day after Suno acknowledged using YouTube clips to train its models, and while Sony and Universal Music Group are still suing it.

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Suno announced Suno v6 on Wednesday, a family of three music generation models the company says was built on licensed data from labels and distributors including Warner Music Group, BMG and Believe. Suno went out of its way to state that v6 was not trained on the data behind its earlier models, and that those earlier models will be retired. The announcement landed a day after Suno acknowledged using YouTube clips to train its models, and while Sony and Universal Music Group are still suing it.

The lineup splits by how much control the user wants. Suno v6 is the base model for paying subscribers, positioned as predictable and easier to steer. Suno v6 wild, also for paying users, is the experimental one, meant for hunting ideas and producing unexpected results. Suno v6 mini is faster and open to everyone.

On capability, Suno says v6 gives users more ways to work on a track after it exists. A single section of a song can be edited by prompt, or by pointing at a specific word in the lyrics. A track can be generated from text, an image or a video as reference. The model can pull an instrument out of a sample so it can be reused to build a new beat. Song remixes are planned but not shipped: they depend on artists joining a program Suno is building with the labels, which would let Suno use their songs inside AI features.

The legal ledger behind all this is uneven. Suno settled with Warner Music Group last year and reached an agreement with BMG last month. Sony and Universal Music Group are still litigating, as are artists including Jason Isbell. Users have separately accused the company of neglecting safety in pursuit of profit. Despite that, Suno has raised more than $819 million since it was founded, according to PitchBook.

Jack Brody, Suno's chief product officer, framed the release around money rather than sound. Derivative works, he said, could create more earning opportunities for everyone in the market. He said the music ecosystem and Suno's partners are constantly looking for new ways to raise revenue for rights holders and performers, and that creating additional revenue sources is one of the goals of this release. Brody also argued Suno can help with wider problems in the ecosystem, naming streaming fraud and the mass export and upload of low-value content to distributors, while maintaining that distributors and platforms should be the ones deciding what gets published.

This reads less like a model upgrade than a legal retrofit shipped as a product. The tell is not the licensing deals, which any generative music company would announce; it is the decision to retire the old models. A company confident in the provenance of its existing corpus does not delete the products built on it. Suno is separating itself from its own training history and asking the market to treat v6 as a clean start, one day after admitting where some of the old data came from. Watermarking, announced last month, and the new download limits by account tier point the same direction: a company rebuilding itself into something a label can sign a contract with.

What the announcement is quiet about is the number that would make the argument real. Brody's revenue case is entirely conditional — derivative works "could" create more earning opportunities — with no rate, no split, no minimum, and no indication of what an artist who joins the remix program actually receives. There is also no claim anywhere that v6 sounds better than v5. "Predictable" and "steerable" are the words of a vendor selling to a rights holder, not to a musician. And nothing addresses what happens to the tracks users already made on models that are about to be switched off.

That leaves Sony and Universal looking at a model trained without them, sold as proof that their catalogs were never necessary. Their catalogs are also the only thing Suno needs for the remix feature it just promised.